Thailand - Draft Law About Marital Rape

Well at least there's one fat cow who's going to face the music:
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A vengeful insurance company manager falsely accused her boyfriend of a series of brutal rapes when their relationship started to disintegrate...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

I know the daily mail (the daily hate as it is called over here) is not the best of papers but it often has a story to tell.

I wonder if this man is entitled to any compensation.

He was slanderd so I'd say he has a very good civil case.

Thanks for posting the link, Il Postino, Your question about compensation? I do not think so, usually such women will spend some hours for community work and some nights in a prison cell like a 3-star hotel, allowed to go out almost every day, even using their own clothings within the prison area - there is even a feminist request pending in the UK, to abolish all prisons for women..
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The man has only right for compensation, when he was already convicted for this crime, which did not exist, cleared and finally released after a considerable time in prison...to be under investigation only does not qualify him for any compensation.

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Women against violence?
Women are as violent as men.
I am posting here 2 cases just happened a few days ago.

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Pensioner jailed for abusing husband
Published: 30th January 2007 14:03 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/6251/

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A 70-year-old woman from the central Swedish town of Västerås has been sentenced to one year in prison by Västmanland district court.
The woman was found by the court to have mistreated her 81-year-old husband in a number of ways.

She is also reported to have punched and pinched him so hard that his skin was marked with bruises.
On several occasions she pushed him with such force that he fell over. She also held him around the neck until he had difficulty breathing.

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If this is not enough - another reader for our nice gentlemen, who want to protect helpless girls...
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http://thisissouthwales.co.uk/displayNode....;pNodeId=161375

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NAKED WIFE BEAT UP HER HUSBAND
10:30 - 29 January 2007
A Screaming naked woman was found by police beating her husband in the front of a van.Officers were alerted to screams coming from a vehicle in Brynawelon, and discovered Mary Nurse stripped bare hitting her partner.

The 40-year-old was given a conditional discharge after she admitted causing harassment, alarm and distress when she appeared before Llanelli magistrates.

When they approached the van at 8.10pm, they noticed the Penyfan Road, Penyfan, resident wasn't wearing any clothes.

Mrs Vaughan said the pair were arguing and Mr Nurse had injuries to his face.

Mrs Nurse, who has previous convictions for domestic violence, then continued to hurl abuse at her husband and police.

This post has been edited by yohan: 04 February 2007 - 08:59 AM

Il Postino, on Feb 4 2007, 04:03 AM, said:

No, you need a little bit more to be entitled for compensation, like this case...This is the newest case of compensation, I know.

convicted 1986 - sentence 65 years
It took him 15 years in prison and he had to fight for 6 years to get his compensation = 21 years waiting for justice...
He was lucky, the person who committed the crime was finally found.

The incident started 1985, and finally all over in January 2007....
USD 4 million = about USD 22.000,- per month x12 x 15...
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Man gets $4M over wrong rape conviction
January 24, 2007
OKLAHOMA CITY --A man who spent 15 years in prison for a rape he didn't commit has settled with the city for $4 million over botched testimony by a police chemist.
The City Council approved a resolution Tuesday admitting no liability in the settlement of a federal lawsuit filed by Jeffrey Todd Pierce, who was released from prison in 2001 based on DNA testing.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...ape_conviction/

http://www.innocenceproject.org/

Councilman Pete White said the settlement was good for taxpayers and also fair to Pierce.
"The city could have been hit for much more," White said. "This guy was wronged, there's no two ways about it. He had no record at all. He was completely clean. He was an innocent man."

Back to the topic: Draft Law about Martial rape
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Feminists 'against' spousal rape:

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman."
Catherine MacKinnon


Feminists 'against' false rape allegations:

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience."
Catherine Comin, Vassar College. Assistant Dean of Students

Feminists 'against' violence:

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."
Andrea Dworkin; from her book Ice and Fire .

I removed your post. Please rephrase Voodoo Child.

How does one answer the call to legalize rape with candor?

Yohan does the same as the feminists do, defending 'his' side of the coin.
Rape is a crime, being marital or not and so it should be.
And I'm sure Yohan agree with that.

Voodoo Child, on Feb 5 2007, 04:00 PM, said:

Countries have different laws about rape, and what is legal in one country, might be illegal in another country.

People themselves have different opinions about what is rape and what not.
It depends, what is the definition of 'rape'.

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Leading feminists consider the following below as RAPE.

Basic definition of rape:
I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.
Robin Morgan

Explication of the above definition of rape:
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All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.
Catherine MacKinnon

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In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.
Catharine MacKinnon

If you can advocate laws allowing an innocent woman to be raped, fine, but to call someone out on it is too "violent"


This is ridiculous. The forum is just turning out to be a posting board for Yohan's hate propaganda.

You can quote all the feminist tripe that you want Yohan. None of this makes raping your wife acceptable. (Regardless if it is defined under the law)

This is not about feminism or false rape accusations.

It is purely and simply about your conscience as a man to accept or deny that you should be legally able to force your wife to have sex with you if she doesn't feel like it. Or your son in law to force sex with your daughter if she doesn't want to.

Yet HE has the freedom to advocate it. Be careful about criticising him, those who do get their posts zapped.

I personally do not believe Thailand is using the same definition of "rape" as the leading feminists you are quoting, Yohan.

IMO, it's a different matter altogether. I am a woman and I think the mentioned feminists' statements are bullsh*t. A rape is a rape. Period. False rape accusations do not make spousal rape right. In the same time, being married doesn't give one's spouse rights to rape them too.

Critic is healthy, Voodoo Child, but insulting people is not...

Well you must not have ever had to deal with a rape victim. Lucky you.

The kind of anti-woman crap he's allowed to spew, even to the point of saying it should be ok to RAPE someone, yet if someone finds it appaulling like any civilized man would we aren't allowed to vent our disgust.

No wonder women don't post here, we have a protected woman hater advocating rape.

This post has been edited by Voodoo Child: 05 February 2007 - 04:10 PM

That's better. You are indeed free to disagree and to convince Yohan he is wrong.

As for women not posting, some posted and some still post but I'm afraid most of them do not relate to a forum where mostly men post.

And this is not at all specific to this board...

Trying to convince yohan he is wrong is like trying to convince a dog not to lick his anus. You can throw all the logic and facts you want at the arguement but regardless of that yohan will go on licking.

This post has been edited by Voodoo Child: 05 February 2007 - 04:17 PM

TizMe, on Feb 5 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

It is.

It is about feminism AND false rape allegations (and also baseless accusations of violence), which are used to create a legal situation to make a man defenseless against any accusation from a woman, just her word is considered to be true and the man has even no right for legal defense.

I gave you many links for documentation about my claims, that what I said, is true - I gave you even links, where such accusations brought men to prison for life and even to the death row. You ignore all, what I said so far.

I am still missing anything constructive from you, how you want to protect men against these false allegations...

I am even missing from you any statement, what is rape ...(and do not mix up rape and violence ...2 different subjects). There is a huge grey zone about the definition itself.

Maybe you could post something more readable stuff worth for discussion except some one+two-liner, claiming something without any arguments.

Some useless bullsh*t like that:

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And? And now tell me, how you protect your son against false allegations, which might bring him for 20 years behind bars, because your daughter-in-law is claiming any abuse out of no understandable reason?

There is a married couple in one room - and they are telling 2 different stories - he says-she says...

Why is the woman's opinion correct in this case and the man's opinion wrong?
Why is the man considered to be guilty until he is able to prove he is innocent?

yohan, on Feb 5 2007, 03:43 PM, said:

On that I agree.
And I'm not talking about rape...

Glad you can find something to agree on with the man advocating legalized raping of women.

Hey, it just makes sense that all women be subject to rape just because a few have made false claims. Advocating rape is fine. Just make sure you don't call anyone an animal for thinking it. That's wrong and must be stopped, but please, let this be a forum expressing a desire to let women be raped. That's ok right?

This post has been edited by Voodoo Child: 05 February 2007 - 05:00 PM