Thailand - Draft Law About Marital Rape

Bluecat, on Feb 5 2007, 08:00 PM, said:

How do you think, you can separate these 2(?) topics?
This is ONE topic and not 2 topics.

If you believe the wife, it is 'marital rape without assault'
If you believe the husband, it is 'false marital rape allegation'

He says - she says... no other evidence.

The KEY is the law of the concerned country the judge is using.

If you are the judge using Western feminist laws, the man is guilty.
If you are the judge using Asian and Islamic laws ('Oriental laws'?), the man is not guilty.

How to separate this? I have no idea...

Yohan,

I agree that there should be something done to reduce the number of false accusations that lead to a prosecution (of any crime, not only rape).

BUT, this IS a different issue than the ignorance that you will allow your son-in-law to rape your daughter if she doesn't feel like having sex.

These two issues are separate. There is no reason that one excludes the other. It s up to the law makers to make it work.

BUT under no circumstance is it acceptable for any human to be allowed to force them selves on their spouse.

yohan, on Jan 28 2007, 09:58 AM, said:

You are so full of it your eyes are turning brown.

What part of did you not understand.If a woman is raped, there is vaginal tearing.fcuk the loopholes pal,just tell us why there is vaginal tearing??????

Is it fun then?

You did not answer the question.Harden up will ya.

Bluecat, on Feb 5 2007, 08:10 PM, said:

Better not to bet. Hmmm...Hmmm...Bluecat...so let us see, if you are right. No false allegations in the developing world...
There are cultural differences of course, for example in this India-website you will always read something about the husband and his family, the wife and her family...etc...

What can we find in the international press about it? As usually such news are presented somewhat balanced:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,20920...from=public_rss

and now let us see the local internet..

http://498a.org/

The first sentence from its WELCOME page: (sounds quite similar to the Western world...)

Quote

http://www.498a.org/dvfaq.htm
FAQ about the domestic Violence Bill 498A and its misuse by women

http://www.498a.org/victimStories.htm
Here is the story of 100 male victims

http://presentindia....lence-bill.html
A blog about legal loopholes...

http://forum.498a.org/
The forum for such problems

I see not much difference to the Western world...

TizMe, on Feb 5 2007, 10:58 PM, said:

I see no problem about false accusations regarding other crimes, like theft or fraud etc...the accused person, man or woman, is innocent until some evidence is coming up.

I see the problem related to special Western feminist laws, which should protect women, but are widely misused, as men are automatically considered as guilty and have no access for a good legal defense.
If the false accusation is working out, the man is in prison for a crime he did not commit, if the false accusation does not work out, nothing will be happen to this woman. She will continue with the next false accusation.

Yes, this should be changed, you are right... but I see nothing, that politics are going in this direction.

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All what is up for discussion in this Thai law and new draft (and also in the Japanese law), is solely a protection for the husband, in case of false accusation regarding 'spouse rape without assault' - and not 'violent rape of every woman' as some male/female feminists are claiming in their nonsense feminist propaganda.

While violent rape is a crime, I wonder, why it should be rape, if a married wife is going home, drunken and next day waking up without clothings ...
In fact, this is the best opportunity for the wife to claim 'spousal rape without assault', without any evidence except seen to be drunken by the bar-owner last evening - her husband will be arrested and charged with rape (same as rape against an unknown woman) as no valid consent could be given by the drunken wife - she will get a lucrative divorce and his property. He will either end in prison or will sleep in future in a van.

And now tell me, this what I told you above, will never happen, because all women are soooo honest and will NEVER act as a liar. I can assure you, it happened, it is happening just now and it will happen in the future.

Study a law like VAWA-II or the Canadian Violence Act! 'Spousal rape without assault' might be claimed by the wife even without any sexual contact, just claiming she MIGHT have been raped is already enough, and even to claim to be afraid of being raped in the own home might bring rape charges against the husband...

Might be for you this is all rape (what kind of rape ever), for me such a scenario is not rape, but bullsh*t.

About the legal system in Thailand, Japan and other nations it must be noticed, that the law is protecting the innocent husband against such fabricated bullsh*t claims of his own estranged wife in case of divorce.

chuchok, on Feb 6 2007, 04:47 AM, said:

Topic: Draft Law About Marital Rape

As you are living in Thailand, you should complain to the Thai Ministry of Justice, if you feel Thai laws are wrong.

It makes no sense if you attack me.
I am sorry, I cannot help you, as I am not responsible for the present law and draft for the future law regulating the relationship between husband and wife of this nation.

You cannot understand, that Asian nations are creating laws, which are different from Western feminist moral values.
As you are a foreigner in Thailand, I wonder, why you are not moving out if you do not agree with its legal system?
Why not going back to Northern America or Europe, where laws fitting your ideals of a perfect society?

Closed.