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Is Jiang Zemin dead?

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#1 Starseeker

Posted 17 July 2011 - 12:08 AM



Is he or isn't he? Around 11 pm on July 5, China's blogosphere began trading in rumors that Jiang Zemin, the former leader of the People's Republic, had died. By midnight local searches on this topic had become very popular. But within half an hour, the heavy hand of China's censors descended. Chinese language searches for words relating to death, even without being paired with Jiang's name, returned the Orwellian message: “According to relevant policies and laws, the search results are not shown below.”

Well, despite what Jiang may or may not have done, he is often seen as more friendly to the west than the current Hu.  There are a lot of people that like to blame the economical situation between the rich and poor on him or says he favors economical growth above all else.  But he is seen by some as a Shanghai Dove compared to Hu's Beijing Hawk, so who knows?

#2 20DowntheDrain

Posted 17 July 2011 - 05:57 AM

If he is dead, he's probably rolling over in his grave now that Obama met with the Dalai Lama against China's wishes.

#3 (Member banned)

Posted 17 July 2011 - 07:06 AM

All empty talk, political propaganda...



Obama met the Nobel Prize laureate for 45 minutes, praising him for embracing non-violence while reiterating that the United States did not support independence for Tibet.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton attends a regional security forum in Indonesia this week along with China's foreign minister. She then visits the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen to meet China's top diplomat, state councilor Dai Bingguo.


Obama's meeting came at an extra sensitive moment for China, the United States' biggest creditor, with leaders in Washington at odds over how to raise the $14.3 trillion U.S. debt ceiling in time to avoid default.

China holds more than $1 trillion in U.S.Treasury debt ...

The Dalai Lama is simply said a part of the past...

#4 Uncle Gweilo

Posted 17 July 2011 - 10:13 AM

From the Wikipedia article on Jiang:


Health decline

In December 2010, following Jiang's absence at the funeral of former Chinese foreign minister Huang Hua, rumours began circulating about his demise. On 1 July 2011, he was once again conspicuously absent, this time from the celebrations to mark the 90th anniversary of the founding of the Communist Party. Within days, Internet rumours began circulating that Jiang had died,prompting Chinese censors to block searches for the words "Jiang Zemin", or even simply "Jiang". On 6 July Hong Kong media carried headlines that Jiang was "critically ill". That evening, terrestrial TV station reported on its evening news bulletin that Jiang had died in Beijing. Xinhua, official state news agency, quoting “authoritative sources”, declared that overseas media reports of Jiang's death were "pure rumour".

Dissident website had reported on 6 July 2011 a source as saying: “Former leader Jiang died at midnight at Beijing 301 Hospital.” At approximately 3 pm, it issued a correction: “We reported that Jiang was in critical condition or died based on several sources, but a figure in Beijing called us at noon to inform us that his condition has improved.”

Apparently the Chinese government is running around quashing rumours that Jiang has died.

And there's nothing on the China Daily website apart from a link to Xinhua saying that it's all rumour.

Edited by Uncle Gweilo, 17 July 2011 - 10:14 AM.

#5 Starseeker

Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:11 PM

Well, the news reports says that the inside track says Jiang is on life support at the moment, but he can't be "allowed" to die until all 9 of the most powerful men in China convene and decide on what to do.  It's been reported that his death will be officially declared when the Politiburo Standing Committee has decided on his legacy and make sure there are no riots or protests like in 89 or when the one blamed for 89 dies.

Edited by Starseeker, 29 July 2011 - 06:22 PM.

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