BTS discounts, but only if you are Thai
Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:06 PM
In no way connected but as a measure of contrast, my sister lives in Spain. She is allowed to vote in local elections, as any decisions made obviously affect foregners living in the country as much as locals, much of the time. So the Spaniards feel it is only right that they should have a say in who represents their interests.
Can you ever imagine the Thais welcoming foreigners into the voting process? That is even less likely than them allowing foreigners the right to pay the same fare as the locals. If you must come here, 'pay up and shut up' is the Thai motto.
Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:00 PM
Well, you're not a citizen of Thailand in the first place.
And racism is sure not the right word.
And why would Thais actually welcome you as a citizen?
Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:02 PM
Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:06 PM
Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:21 PM
For public transport I think fees are the same, for example bus, long-distance bus, train, domestic flights, ferries etc.
I wonder however if BTS has something like a tourist ticket, pay a fixed fee and use the BTS for one week as many times as you like.
About comparing Thailand and Spain - Thailand does not care much about foreigners living in Thailand, regardless if with or without Thai wife/family.
Thailand in general is not known to be much into social services. Thailand is not wheel-chair friendly, just one example. Thailand also considers it as 'normal' that foreigners, often with Christian ministries, are taking care of abandoned children or blind people...
Many Asian countries are like that, not only Thailand.
Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:08 PM
That's not entirely true. Many establishments, both government and private, will offer the same rates as those offered to Thai people if you can show that you live in Thailand e.g. Thai driver's license. I've had countless experiences of this over the years but it's hit and miss.
I wonder if there's similar provision on this BTS initiative?
Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:02 AM
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 09:57 AM
I'm surprised at Bluecat dragging out the old 'If you don't like it, leave' argument. Hardly original. Abandoning my wife isn't on the cards. All I want is to be TREATED EQUALLY. Is that too difficult to understand? Is that too much to ask for?
Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:08 AM
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:37 PM
I fully agree with you and I made several comments about dual pricing in this forum. It's absurd to find excuses for different prices based on nationality, visa-status etc.
However in a country like Thailand, the only what you can do about it is not to use such services or entertainments.
I myself as a foreigner reject any attraction, museum, national park etc. with dual pricing and also discourage other foreigners to go there.
Hard to understand while a rich Thai living in USA should pay less than a foreign tourist visiting Thailand for example.
Not all foreigners are rich, otherwise they would travel to somewhere else and not to Thailand.
Many of those foreigners visiting Thailand are by far less rich than some certain Thai. who are supporting dual pricing.
The problem is however not only dual pricing, but the remarkable price difference. I understand that groups, elderly, children, handicapped etc. regardless their nationality or income etc. are qualified for discounts, which are mostly about 10 to 30 percent - something like that.
I would not complain if the price difference is small, but this is often not the case.
In a national park, I remember, it's already a while ago, I was really tricked out. Charged 300 baht, and later on I found out the local pay 20 baht. 15 times more, and yes, this is really discrimination.
If this is not discrimination, what else could this be?
Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:31 AM
They're probably still paying it off.
I still can't get over having to pay the bank a fee when I make an over the counter DEPOSIT!. I have to pay for the "privilage" of them using my money to lend to others to make more money.
Withdrawal fees ... fair enough.
Edited by keekwai, 24 June 2012 - 03:33 AM.
Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:58 AM
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:16 AM
That's maybe the case.
I don't understand the rules either, but as long as it is in the same city (province or even nearby province?) and same bank, but using different branch offices, there is no fee for deposit - at least not with SCB in Pattaya, if you do it anywhere in Chonburi province, for example in Sri Ratcha.
But I remember I had to pay banking fees for deposit up to a few years ago, as my SCB account was still in Songkhla and not in Pattaya. - The account was later on transferred to SCB in Pattaya/Jomtien. The only answer I got was 'why not? it's so far away'...
Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:54 PM
It certainly pays to learn the langauge. An example, SF Cinema regularly have offers on the website - but only the Thai version. A few weeks ago, they were giving a free ticket to everyone who presented the top from an Ichitan drink bottle. I tried but they refused - no free tickets for farangs, even farangs that speak Thai and have a driving licence. So I just sent my daughter up and, abracadabra, two free tickets!
Sometimes, you have to laugh!
Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:46 AM
Biggest mistake of my life was to learn the language!!!!
In all countries you must accept that there are people with poor manners due to lack of education and parent upbringing. However, the bottom line is that all Thais hate us (คนไทยทุกคนเกลียดพวกเรา). In 4 years I noted only on 2 occations Thais queue behind FARANGS. Whilst I can accept this in the local 7/11 it is very hard to also accept this in business circles. Whilst in the local immigration office a Thai woman decided she didn't want to wait behind 2 FARANGS and when I politly told her in Thai to join the queue, I was informed by the immigration officer to wait until all Thais had been delt with first before he would assist any FARANGS.
The whole population consider us inferior but don't worry as on any typical flight in Thailand the pecking order of life can be seen. Thais at the front of the plane, FARANGS next with Chinese, Indians and Arabs at the back. (คนจีนคนแขกและคนแขกสี่ขาวข้างหลัง)
As you know we have the saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you". I have noticed over the years less and less FARANGS in Thailand and at some point in the future they will be faced with only having Indians, Arabs and Chinese tourists.
I lived with a lovely Thai lady which I did hope at some point to marry, but the whole situation was far too insulting.
10 months ago I decided that I had listened to enough of their abuse and bad behaviour and now live in the Philippines.
They say ignorance is bliss so the average FARANG does not understand what they say and think.
On a parting note they despise and look down on us (คนไทยเหยียดหยามพวกเรา) but that is not difficult for them as they still live in the trees.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:28 AM
What's with the Thai script, are you trying to prove something here?
You will find many members here are able to read and write Thai.
Sound to me you got your fingers burnt by your Thai lady and now have it in for the whole of Thailand.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:45 AM
Edited by kamikaze, 12 November 2012 - 10:50 AM.
Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:28 PM
With regards to my ex-girlfiend I did not get burnt and we still keep in touch as a lovely lady. A GOOD well educated Thai lady who had travelled previous to our meeting and was fully aware of the way Thais behave. But she could never defend my honour as she knew she would lose face with other Thais by agreeing with out views.
However, the general norm with about 95% of the population is to consider us lower than them.
In the Philippine no abuse if you don't spend money with a trader just a polite thank you. Also a pleasure to see Filipinos mixing with foreigners as the norm. Only the double pricing standard on the transport which is acceptable.
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