Do you want to marry an Indonesian woman?
Posted 10 October 2005 - 12:05 PM
If you happen to be a not-so-rich foreign gentleman who plans to marry an Indonesian lady here, you'd better tie the knot quickly as the authorities may put an expensive price tag on Indonesian women in the future.
Unknown to many, the Supreme Court is mulling requiring foreign men to deposit some Rp 500 million (about US$50,000) before marrying Indonesian female citizens.
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:18 PM
If you have private contacts to that country, there is however one solution...moving out to Malaysia.
In Malaysia all is much better than in Indonesia. As a Western foreigner it is possible to settle down, nobody takes away your property, and the Indonesian woman also has no legal problem to move to Malaysia - same language, too.
Visa requirements are much easier, no hassles at all in Malaysia. Forget about Indonesia.
Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:30 PM
Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:52 PM
There is clearly a problem for us Western men to move into Indonesia and to marry a local woman there. You are not welcome by the Indonesian government. Security is also a major concern.
I can only speak about retirement, and if you like that people and their culture, then forget about Indonesia and settle down in Malaysia - people are quite similar, but the Malaysian government is open minded to Western foreigners, and there are no problems at all, including international marriage.
Indonesian people like to live in Malaysia. Similar in many aspects, but living standard is much better, compared to Indonesia. Of course other places are also open, like Philippines or Thailand.
Anyway, for Indonesia, there is only one way to go for a foreign man: Take the girl out from there.....
Posted 10 October 2005 - 03:03 PM
What about the fact that, on top of it, you have to convert to Islam.
I have to say, they make it quite difficult for a non muslim foreigner to marry an Indonesian girl.
Maybe it will benefit Indonesia on the long term.
I mean if they all marry Saoudian loaded with money.
But if not, the logic beats me...
Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:48 AM
Neither converted to Islam. It was not difficult for either of them.
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:41 AM
Indonesia does not want foreigners there, and especially not foreigners living permanently with Indonesian women.
This money is basically a deposit for foreigners to ask them to leave with their Indonesian wives as soon as possible.
Every man might go to Indonesia, find a partner, she might come with you anytime, married or not....Indonesia does not restrict its citizens to leave the country.
Tizme, if you marry an Indonesian woman, and she is Muslim, the Non-Muslim husband (foreigner or not does not matter) has to sign a simple paper, that he is from now on a Muslim....
I think, they signed that paper among a flood of other required papers, in practical life in Indonesia nobody cares....
Your two friends do not know yet, that they are Muslim....
Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:57 PM
Muslim or Hindu does not matter, living in Indonesia is the point.
Posted 02 November 2005 - 07:45 AM
Posted 02 November 2005 - 12:18 PM
Shame on them...
Posted 25 April 2006 - 03:48 AM
Posted 25 April 2006 - 05:12 AM
Posted 25 April 2006 - 05:46 AM
Posted 08 October 2006 - 09:32 PM
Posted 09 October 2006 - 01:14 PM
None of us, regular posters married one.
Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:54 PM
not too many though, and that includes local dudes married to local women, many of whom are not quite ecstatic with the way things are going...
Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:57 PM
The other tradition of Islam in Indonesia is more flexible. These are the abangan, or nominal Muslims. They believe in harmony and consensus, which is summed up in the term 'adat'. Most of them live in the interior of Java. They have provided the national slogan, pancasila, a Hindu-Buddhist concept to achieve harmony. Adat trumps Islam and the Koran. The abangan are not so keen on reading the Koran or attending the mosque. They like their Hindu wedding ceremonies. Santri parents do not want their children marrying the abangan Muslims. They do not like pancasila.
Sukarno was a good example of an abangan Muslim. He first gained his knowledge of Islam by reading a book by an American named Stoddart. The shadow play, and its heroes like Prince Bima and Prince Arjuna, were most important to Sukarno. The abangan Muslims have a syncretic belief system incorporating Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and traditional folk beliefs. Suharto told Islamic leaders that politics has no place in the mosque, and he promoted pancasila.
Posted 20 July 2007 - 05:14 PM
And well, not only in this forum...
Posted 21 July 2007 - 06:02 PM
And what about Indonesian men? Will the foreign bride also be required to pay USD 50.000,-?
Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:21 PM
I wonder if Malaysians would have to pay the sin sodt payment to the government. And, if a woman divorces and re-marries foreigners, would the government reap a dividend each time?
Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:32 PM
as far as I understand that regulation, it is only if the foreign man wants to stay in Indonesia - most Malaysian men however will take the Indonesian woman out of Indonesia and will marry in Malaysia and continue to live there without intention to settle down in Indonesia - therefore nothing is to pay.
I think, this strange regulation was done to discourage foreign men to settle down in Indonesia with a local wife.
Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:11 AM
Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:22 PM
To the above poster: I don't think any of us could answer that. Best off to contact your nearest Indonesian embassy. If there isn't one in Kathmandu, there should be one in Delhi.
Edited by Uncle Gweilo, 13 July 2011 - 10:24 PM.
Posted 27 July 2011 - 03:11 PM
Posted 27 July 2011 - 03:34 PM
A passport and a visa will do.
Where do you want to go?
Posted 16 September 2011 - 10:08 AM
Find a nice Indo Chinese gal who is Christian and things are a lot smoother. But I guess you don't pick who you fall in love with eh?
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